I have a PR7 website from which I sell sponsored links. This is a very
spartan home page (www.cooldictionary.com), so there are not many
links on it now.

Right now I am deciding on the max number of such links. The objective
is maximizing my own profit. Is 11 a good number for the
meximum?

Any thoughts?

Thanks

i

Ignoramus15059 wrote:



> I have a PR7 website from which I sell sponsored links. This is a very
> spartan home page (www.cooldictionary.com), so there are not many
> links on it now.

> Right now I am deciding on the max number of such links. The objective
> is maximizing my own profit. Is 11 a good number for the
> meximum?

> Any thoughts?

> Thanks

> i

Well, it depends on how the links are used: are humans supposed to be
clicking on them or robots? For humans I think not more than 3-4 per page
is the max, but for robots you could have 15-20, and it would still be a
good value from a link on a PR7 page. Then, again, it depends on how do
you price them. You might also use another approach: say, you decide
"links from my page are worth $500/month (for the argument's sake)". Then
divide that number by the total number of links from that page (internal
links included!), and make that a price for a single link.

If I were you though, I would not bother with selling the links from the
page but rather use AdSense ads to the max allowed amount (3 ads + 1 link
unit). Google is said to pay very high percentage for the clicks from
pages PR7+, so you may be better of this way. No need to chase link
customers, too ;-) I don't have a PR7 page yet, so cannot prove that, but
would love to hear other's stories about AdSense profit sharing estimates
from high-PR pages.

Good luck!

Sincerely,
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 19:54:11 GMT, www.1-script.com <info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus15059 wrote:
>
>
>
>> I have a PR7 website from which I sell sponsored links. This is a very
>> spartan home page (www.cooldictionary.com), so there are not many
>> links on it now.
>
>> Right now I am deciding on the max number of such links. The objective
>> is maximizing my own profit. Is 11 a good number for the
>> meximum?
>
>> Any thoughts?
>
>> Thanks
>
>> i
>
> Well, it depends on how the links are used: are humans supposed to be
> clicking on them or robots?

Robots mostly.

> For humans I think not more than 3-4 per page is the max, but for
> robots you could have 15-20, and it would still be a good value from
> a link on a PR7 page. Then, again, it depends on how do you price
> them. You might also use another approach: say, you decide "links
> from my page are worth $500/month (for the argument's sake)". Then
> divide that number by the total number of links from that page
> (internal links included!), and make that a price for a single link.

Wel, I think that the point (on which we both agree) is that links
become less valuable, as their number grows, such that after some
points the return on having extra links is actually negative.

> If I were you though, I would not bother with selling the links from the
> page but rather use AdSense ads to the max allowed amount (3 ads + 1 link
> unit). Google is said to pay very high percentage for the clicks from
> pages PR7+, so you may be better of this way. No need to chase link
> customers, too ;-) I don't have a PR7 page yet, so cannot prove that, but
> would love to hear other's stories about AdSense profit sharing estimates
> from high-PR pages.

I dunno, I think that if I want my site to remain a PR7, I should keep
it usable. Under this premise, having too many ads may reduce
usability and, in the long run, the # of IBLs.

I run adsense on that site, and the CPM is nice, but not exciting.

i

Ignoramus15059 wrote:

> I dunno, I think that if I want my site to remain a PR7, I should keep
> it usable. Under this premise, having too many ads may reduce
> usability and, in the long run, the # of IBLs.

Don't want to rain on your parade, Igor, but I don't think your page
became PR7 by the virtue of its usefulness but rather incoming links and
time online. No, seriously: there is just not enough words on the page to
devise any usefulness. You only introduce your site and then go on
presenting your tools, which are nice, BTW, but the point is: it cannot be
found more useful than millions of other Web pages that would only get to
PR1 in ten years to come. I think this is back links at work, so don't
worry about clogging your page with links: it can bear few more.

> I run adsense on that site, and the CPM is nice, but not exciting.

Man, you are missing out on major income opportunity! I am telling you
from experience: get rid of the white background on your ad (make it blend
with the rest of the page), put three of them up and see what happens.
Don't forget to inlclude one of those little link ads units, too. You can
thank me later by adding my link to your wonderful PR7 page ;-)

Good luck!



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Ignoramus15059 wrote:

> I have a PR7 website from which I sell sponsored links. This is a very
> spartan home page (www.cooldictionary.com), so there are not many
> links on it now.
>
> Right now I am deciding on the max number of such links. The objective
> is maximizing my own profit. Is 11 a good number for the
> meximum?

You will be belonging to the neighborhood of pages you link to. If
they're all pages which try to get a high ranking, they might use
methodologies which could defines as "spam" neighborhood. In other
words, if you get too close to a bad neighborhood, then that's a
problem. 1 link to a bad neighborhood is harmless, a dozen may not be.
In any case, if the sites you point to are all "natural" (no
link-farming strategies etc.) there's no worries even with 11 links.
Pretty much every blog has more than 11 links in the navigation and
it's simply nothing that would ever be punished on its own (and why
should it?).


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On Tue, 31 May 2005 21:00:39 GMT, www.1-script.com <info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus15059 wrote:
>
>> I dunno, I think that if I want my site to remain a PR7, I should keep
>> it usable. Under this premise, having too many ads may reduce
>> usability and, in the long run, the # of IBLs.
>
> Don't want to rain on your parade, Igor, but I don't think your page
> became PR7 by the virtue of its usefulness but rather incoming links and
> time online. No, seriously: there is just not enough words on the page to
> devise any usefulness. You only introduce your site and then go on
> presenting your tools,

And that's what makes it useful, that it quickly gets the user to the
tools.

> which are nice, BTW, but the point is: it cannot be found more
> useful than millions of other Web pages that would only get to PR1
> in ten years to come. I think this is back links at work, so don't
> worry about clogging your page with links: it can bear few more.

>> I run adsense on that site, and the CPM is nice, but not exciting.
>
> Man, you are missing out on major income opportunity! I am telling you
> from experience: get rid of the white background on your ad (make it blend
> with the rest of the page), put three of them up and see what happens.
> Don't forget to inlclude one of those little link ads units, too. You can
> thank me later by adding my link to your wonderful PR7 page ;-)

Thanks. I will consider what you say, most seriously.

i

On 01 Jun 2005 15:17:58 GMT, Philipp Lenssen <info@outer-court.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus15059 wrote:
>
>> I have a PR7 website from which I sell sponsored links. This is a very
>> spartan home page (www.cooldictionary.com), so there are not many
>> links on it now.
>>
>> Right now I am deciding on the max number of such links. The objective
>> is maximizing my own profit. Is 11 a good number for the
>> meximum?
>
> You will be belonging to the neighborhood of pages you link to. If
> they're all pages which try to get a high ranking, they might use
> methodologies which could defines as "spam" neighborhood. In other
> words, if you get too close to a bad neighborhood, then that's a
> problem. 1 link to a bad neighborhood is harmless, a dozen may not be.
> In any case, if the sites you point to are all "natural" (no
> link-farming strategies etc.) there's no worries even with 11 links.
> Pretty much every blog has more than 11 links in the navigation and
> it's simply nothing that would ever be punished on its own (and why
> should it?).

Thank you. I try to check sites that I link to, but I may be missing
out some useful techniques. I just look at them to see if they
constitute a legitimate business attempt.

i

On 01 Jun 2005 15:17:58 GMT, "Philipp Lenssen" <info@outer-court.com>
wrote:

>Ignoramus15059 wrote:
>
>> I have a PR7 website from which I sell sponsored links. This is a very
>> spartan home page (www.cooldictionary.com), so there are not many
>> links on it now.
>>
>> Right now I am deciding on the max number of such links. The objective
>> is maximizing my own profit. Is 11 a good number for the
>> meximum?
>
>You will be belonging to the neighborhood of pages you link to. If
>they're all pages which try to get a high ranking, they might use
>methodologies which could defines as "spam" neighborhood. In other
>words, if you get too close to a bad neighborhood, then that's a
>problem. 1 link to a bad neighborhood is harmless, a dozen may not be.
>In any case, if the sites you point to are all "natural" (no
>link-farming strategies etc.) there's no worries even with 11 links.
>Pretty much every blog has more than 11 links in the navigation and
>it's simply nothing that would ever be punished on its own (and why
>should it?).

Hey Philipp did you see http://www.kruse.co.uk/google-local-1.htm and
the follow-ons? I was going to get in touch, seeing as you follow
Google's activities.

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