Just had a client say...

"On the homepage can you have writing which is in white on the white
background so people can't see it, with the words [companyn name omitted]
etc...to help you get to the top of the search engines."

... i said "who've you been talking to, do you want to get banned?

lol
mark

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:22:50 -0300, mark | r <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just had a client say...
>
> "On the homepage can you have writing which is in white on the white
> background so people can't see it, with the words [companyn name omitted]
> etc...to help you get to the top of the search engines."
>
> .. i said "who've you been talking to, do you want to get banned?
>
> lol
> mark


But at least he knows more than average. A fair amount of my customers
don't know about Google, and they think the only way to access a web site
is typing its url in the Yahoo search box.

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 mark | r <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just had a client say...
>
> "On the homepage can you have writing which is in white on the white
> background so people can't see it, with the words [companyn name omitted]
> etc...to help you get to the top of the search engines."
>
> .. i said "who've you been talking to, do you want to get banned?

he's almost right there... we use an invisible div to hide text that is
placed at the top of the screen
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.... hear freedom comin"

mark | r wrote:
> Just had a client say...

> "On the homepage can you have writing which is in white on the white
> background so people can't see it, with the words [companyn name
> omitted] etc...to help you get to the top of the search engines."

> .. i said "who've you been talking to, do you want to get banned?

How great is the risc of being banned? Several months ago I informed Google
about such a site but it's still a number 1 hit in Google.

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On 14 Mar 2005 14:28:34 GMT, Stimp <ren@spumco.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 mark | r <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just had a client say...
>>
>> "On the homepage can you have writing which is in white on the white
>> background so people can't see it, with the words [companyn name omitted]
>> etc...to help you get to the top of the search engines."
>>
>> .. i said "who've you been talking to, do you want to get banned?
>
>he's almost right there... we use an invisible div to hide text that is
>placed at the top of the screen

View source will reveal the hidden text to a competitor who has the
option to submit a spam report to the search engines.

The search engines might view your site and give it a manual penalty
for hidden text.

So the above is no better than white text on white background, it just
looks better (if done right) when viewed in a browser. When done badly
the window scrolls for a long time :-)

Neither technique is advisable if you want long term success.

David
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"Stimp" <ren@spumco.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 mark | r <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just had a client say...
>>
>> "On the homepage can you have writing which is in white on the white
>> background so people can't see it, with the words [companyn name omitted]
>> etc...to help you get to the top of the search engines."
>>
>> .. i said "who've you been talking to, do you want to get banned?

LOL!! Mark at least you are there to advise the other.

> he's almost right there... we use an invisible div to hide text that is
> placed at the top of the screen

There is someone one at the Google Support Group that just had their site
banned by that technique.

Stacey

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:48:35 +0100, "Nico Schuyt"
<nschuyt@hotmail.com> wrote:

>mark | r wrote:
>> Just had a client say...
>
>> "On the homepage can you have writing which is in white on the white
>> background so people can't see it, with the words [companyn name
>> omitted] etc...to help you get to the top of the search engines."
>
>> .. i said "who've you been talking to, do you want to get banned?
>
>How great is the risc of being banned? Several months ago I informed Google
>about such a site but it's still a number 1 hit in Google.

It may well, despite the use of spam, be a more useful site than those
under it who don't.

BB
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no Mmark, you can not use hidden white text on a white background.
While my company does not endorse the use of keyword stuffing in css,
if you feel you must load the page with hidden keywords to get high
rankings then use a css sheet but do use misleading or non-related
keywords.....

remember in this business you can lead a horse to water...but you can't
make them drink...

David Lazar
Lazworld.com Inc.
Founded in 1998 for Internet Marketing