I have just uploaded some pages to Google and after about a week some appear
on Google and others don't. That's Ok but then the next day, some of the
pages that were on the day before have disappeared. A few days later one or
two of those disappeared pages may return. Any idea why this happens? It
just seems random and on any one day you never know which pages are
included.

Dave Shephard wrote:

> I have just uploaded some pages to Google and after about a week some
> appear on Google and others don't. That's Ok but then the next day,
> some of the pages that were on the day before have disappeared. A few
> days later one or two of those disappeared pages may return. Any idea
> why this happens? It just seems random and on any one day you never
> know which pages are included.

Might be that you connect to different data centers.

Also, my experience is that new pages get a boost for some time (a week?)
and then drop down. (I called this some time ago the google tree house :-)

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On Thu, 12 May 2005 06:58:06 +0200, Dave Shephard <errr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have just uploaded some pages to Google and after about a week some
> appear
> on Google and others don't. That's Ok but then the next day, some of the
> pages that were on the day before have disappeared. A few days later
> one or
> two of those disappeared pages may return. Any idea why this happens? It
> just seems random and on any one day you never know which pages are
> included.

Are you sure you are always using the same google datacenter? Instead of
entering www.google.com as url try to use IP - this way you will be sure
you are always connected to the same database. Datacenter databases are
synchoronized all the time but they are never the same.

Check

http://www.mcdar.net/Q-Check/datatool.asp

for datacenter IP's. IIRC they are described somewhere on the site -
but if you just enter your query you will have IPs in the answer.

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On 12 May 2005 06:27:29 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:

>Dave Shephard wrote:
>
>> I have just uploaded some pages to Google and after about a week some
>> appear on Google and others don't. That's Ok but then the next day,
>> some of the pages that were on the day before have disappeared. A few
>> days later one or two of those disappeared pages may return. Any idea
>> why this happens? It just seems random and on any one day you never
>> know which pages are included.
>
>Might be that you connect to different data centers.
>
>Also, my experience is that new pages get a boost for some time (a week?)
>and then drop down. (I called this some time ago the google tree house :-)

And I said that was what people confused with the Google Sandbox.
Betcha I'm right!

BB
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Big Bill wrote:

> On 12 May 2005 06:27:29 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>
>>Dave Shephard wrote:
>>
>>> I have just uploaded some pages to Google and after about a week
>>> some appear on Google and others don't. That's Ok but then the next
>>> day, some of the pages that were on the day before have disappeared.
>>> A few days later one or two of those disappeared pages may return.
>>> Any idea why this happens? It just seems random and on any one day
>>> you never know which pages are included.
>>
>>Might be that you connect to different data centers.
>>
>>Also, my experience is that new pages get a boost for some time (a
>>week?) and then drop down. (I called this some time ago the google
>>tree house :-)
>
> And I said that was what people confused with the Google Sandbox.
> Betcha I'm right!

sandbox = new site gets a boost, then a cool down, then is allowed to go
up
treehouse = new page gets a boost, then settles (on an established site).

A new site I know, doesn't suffer from sandbox, however (yes, fresh
domain). Which doesn't mean it isn't there, maybe it's just less crappy
"optimized" then all others :-D.

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John Bokma wrote:
> Big Bill wrote:
>
>
>>On 12 May 2005 06:27:29 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Dave Shephard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have just uploaded some pages to Google and after about a week
>>>>some appear on Google and others don't. That's Ok but then the next
>>>>day, some of the pages that were on the day before have disappeared.
>>>>A few days later one or two of those disappeared pages may return.
>>>>Any idea why this happens? It just seems random and on any one day
>>>>you never know which pages are included.
>>>
>>>Might be that you connect to different data centers.
>>>
>>>Also, my experience is that new pages get a boost for some time (a
>>>week?) and then drop down. (I called this some time ago the google
>>>tree house :-)
>>
>>And I said that was what people confused with the Google Sandbox.
>>Betcha I'm right!
>
>
> sandbox = new site gets a boost, then a cool down, then is allowed to go
> up
> treehouse = new page gets a boost, then settles (on an established site).
>
> A new site I know, doesn't suffer from sandbox, however (yes, fresh
> domain). Which doesn't mean it isn't there, maybe it's just less crappy
> "optimized" then all others :-D.


Hi John,

Nicely explained. Wonder which site that is.

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On 12 May 2005 19:21:53 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:

>Big Bill wrote:
>
>> On 12 May 2005 06:27:29 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Dave Shephard wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have just uploaded some pages to Google and after about a week
>>>> some appear on Google and others don't. That's Ok but then the next
>>>> day, some of the pages that were on the day before have disappeared.
>>>> A few days later one or two of those disappeared pages may return.
>>>> Any idea why this happens? It just seems random and on any one day
>>>> you never know which pages are included.
>>>
>>>Might be that you connect to different data centers.
>>>
>>>Also, my experience is that new pages get a boost for some time (a
>>>week?) and then drop down. (I called this some time ago the google
>>>tree house :-)
>>
>> And I said that was what people confused with the Google Sandbox.
>> Betcha I'm right!
>
>sandbox = new site gets a boost, then a cool down, then is allowed to go
> up
>treehouse = new page gets a boost, then settles (on an established site).
>
>A new site I know, doesn't suffer from sandbox, however (yes, fresh
>domain). Which doesn't mean it isn't there, maybe it's just less crappy
>"optimized" then all others :-D.

And my explanation remains at www.kruse.co.uk/sandbox.htm
I haven't altered it, John, I just mention it for the newbies.

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Dave

Sounds like you're being served up cached results

Try clearing your cache and cookies. Then check to see if you connect
via a proxy server.

If you use BT Internet "OnSpeed" to connect, disable it and try again.

This cleared the problem for my sites... now all I get is the usual
dance malarky!

Jack