Do a google search for "fitday". FitDay is a popular website or
dieters, allowing them to log their eating etc.

Look at what comes up third in the search. It is my own page with some
fitday screenshots. It is an auxiliary part of my personal weightloss
page describing how I lost 50 lbs. My fitday page is of no importance
whatsoever and its pagerank of 0 reflects that.

Both first, second and fourth results in the search have non-zero
pagerank. And yet, google decided to place my link with zero pagerank
between those. Why?

http://www.seochat.com/?tool=7&optio...G=+++Search+++

The only explanation I can think of is use of "fitday" in the
directory name.

I think that google places very serious value on directory names.

This is a very clear study proving that directory names are of supreme
importance.

i

Ignoramus760 wrote:

> This is a very clear study proving that directory names are of supreme
> importance.

Note that there is no such thing as a directory in an URI. Google doesn't
know if bar in foo/bar/widgets.html is a directory or not. So basically
what you say is that words in URIs are important. What's new?

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On 2 May 2005 15:09:14 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus760 wrote:
>
>> This is a very clear study proving that directory names are of supreme
>> importance.
>
> Note that there is no such thing as a directory in an URI. Google doesn't
> know if bar in foo/bar/widgets.html is a directory or not. So basically
> what you say is that words in URIs are important. What's new?

Well, two things. Google parses URI's and it probably knows (as we all
do) that '/' is a directory separator. Second, this case shows that
words in the URI are very important (not just important). They place a
pretty meaningless page before higher PR pages.

i

Ignoramus760 wrote:

> On 2 May 2005 15:09:14 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>> Ignoramus760 wrote:
>>
>>> This is a very clear study proving that directory names are of
>>> supreme importance.
>>
>> Note that there is no such thing as a directory in an URI. Google
>> doesn't know if bar in foo/bar/widgets.html is a directory or not. So
>> basically what you say is that words in URIs are important. What's
>> new?
>
> Well, two things. Google parses URI's and it probably knows (as we all
> do) that '/' is a directory separator.

It is not. There is no way Google can see if bar is a directory or not.

> Second, this case shows that
> words in the URI are very important (not just important). They place a
> pretty meaningless page before higher PR pages.

SERPs are not sorted based on PR.

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Ignoramus760 wrote:

> On 2 May 2005 15:09:14 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>> Ignoramus760 wrote:
>>
>>> This is a very clear study proving that directory names are of
>>> supreme importance.
>>
>> Note that there is no such thing as a directory in an URI. Google
>> doesn't know if bar in foo/bar/widgets.html is a directory or not. So
>> basically what you say is that words in URIs are important. What's
>> new?
>
> Well, two things. Google parses URI's and it probably knows (as we all
> do) that '/' is a directory separator. Second, this case shows that
> words in the URI are very important (not just important). They place a
> pretty meaningless page before higher PR pages.

In general, / is a directory separator but not always. Google will just
be stripping the / in the URI and considering each part between the
slashes to be a word.

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Ignoramus760 wrote:

>
> My fitday page is of no importance whatsoever and its pagerank of 0 reflects that.

Don't assume your page is of no importance to Google and has no pagerank
- if it is in the Google index it has PageRank. The parent page has a
link from a PR5 page and their is an inbound link with the word fitday
in it. Having keywords in URLs or domains means that if someone links to
your site using the URL you will also get keyword relevant anchor text.

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Chris Hope wrote:

> Ignoramus760 wrote:
>
>> On 2 May 2005 15:09:14 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>>> Ignoramus760 wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a very clear study proving that directory names are of
>>>> supreme importance.
>>>
>>> Note that there is no such thing as a directory in an URI. Google
>>> doesn't know if bar in foo/bar/widgets.html is a directory or not.
>>> So basically what you say is that words in URIs are important.
>>> What's new?
>>
>> Well, two things. Google parses URI's and it probably knows (as we
>> all do) that '/' is a directory separator. Second, this case shows
>> that words in the URI are very important (not just important). They
>> place a pretty meaningless page before higher PR pages.
>
> In general, / is a directory separator but not always. Google will
> just be stripping the / in the URI and considering each part between
> the slashes to be a word.

To the OP, see also:

"For *some* file systems, a "/"
character (used to denote the hierarchical structure of a URI) is the
delimiter used to construct a file name hierarchy, and thus the URI
path will *look* similar to a file pathname. This does *NOT* imply
that the resource is a file or that the URI maps to an actual
filesystem
pathname."

<http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2396.html>

So the / is just a level marker for a hierarchical structure. That a
part of this structure maps to directories on your server is just
coincidal :-D

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John Bokma wrote:

> Chris Hope wrote:
>
>> Ignoramus760 wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 May 2005 15:09:14 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>>>> Ignoramus760 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is a very clear study proving that directory names are of
>>>>> supreme importance.
>>>>
>>>> Note that there is no such thing as a directory in an URI. Google
>>>> doesn't know if bar in foo/bar/widgets.html is a directory or not.
>>>> So basically what you say is that words in URIs are important.
>>>> What's new?
>>>
>>> Well, two things. Google parses URI's and it probably knows (as we
>>> all do) that '/' is a directory separator. Second, this case shows
>>> that words in the URI are very important (not just important). They
>>> place a pretty meaningless page before higher PR pages.
>>
>> In general, / is a directory separator but not always. Google will
>> just be stripping the / in the URI and considering each part between
>> the slashes to be a word.
>
> To the OP, see also:
>
> "For *some* file systems, a "/"
> character (used to denote the hierarchical structure of a URI) is the
> delimiter used to construct a file name hierarchy, and thus the URI
> path will *look* similar to a file pathname. This does *NOT* imply
> that the resource is a file or that the URI maps to an actual
> filesystem
> pathname."
>
> <http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2396.html>
>
> So the / is just a level marker for a hierarchical structure. That a
> part of this structure maps to directories on your server is just
> coincidal :-D

And there are many ways to map stuff to other "real" directory locations
such as the use of aliases in Apache and symbolic links.

And then there are uri rewriting tools where you can map a hierarchical
structure to whatever you want, such as mod_rewrite as used in my
recipes.electrictoolbox.com site where the entire site is run through
one script accessing a database; yet it *looks* like a regular static
directory and filesystem type website.

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Chris Hope wrote:

> And there are many ways to map stuff to other "real" directory locations
> such as the use of aliases in Apache and symbolic links.

See http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2005/01/0...onf-split.html :-)

> And then there are uri rewriting tools where you can map a hierarchical
> structure to whatever you want, such as mod_rewrite as used in my
> recipes.electrictoolbox.com site where the entire site is run through
> one script accessing a database; yet it *looks* like a regular static
> directory and filesystem type website.

Yup, another one:

/foo/bar.cgi/widgets/bar

/widgets/bar *could be* passed as PATH_INFO to bar.cgi.

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John Bokma wrote:

> Chris Hope wrote:
>
>> And there are many ways to map stuff to other "real" directory
>> locations such as the use of aliases in Apache and symbolic links.
>
> See http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2005/01/0...onf-split.html
> :-)
>
>> And then there are uri rewriting tools where you can map a
>> hierarchical structure to whatever you want, such as mod_rewrite as
>> used in my recipes.electrictoolbox.com site where the entire site is
>> run through one script accessing a database; yet it *looks* like a
>> regular static directory and filesystem type website.
>
> Yup, another one:
>
> /foo/bar.cgi/widgets/bar
>
> /widgets/bar *could be* passed as PATH_INFO to bar.cgi.

Yeah I currently do that with my electrictoolbox.com site where
the /article/ part of the uri is in fact a PHP script called article
and the rest of the stuff becomes a PATH_INFO variable in PHP.

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