In article <Xns9647B908A4AD8castleamber@130.133.1.4>,
john@castleamber.com says...
> Adam Davies wrote:
>
> > we have just had a module added to our site so that we can see what
> > items are added to basket but the customer does not follow through to
> > checkout.
> > What i've noticed is that every 5-7 minutes the IP 64.242.88.10 is
> > adding products to basket.
> > I've traced the IP back and it's coming from looksmart. I never knew
> > that crawlers could add to basket I thought they just followed links.
>
> Following a link could mean adding something to a basket :-D.
>
>
Well i thought that but the add to basket is javascript rather than a
direct link , so it shouldnt really be able to do what it's doing ( I
could be wrong)

Adam Davies wrote:

> In article <Xns9647B908A4AD8castleamber@130.133.1.4>,
> john@castleamber.com says...
>> Adam Davies wrote:
>>
>> > we have just had a module added to our site so that we can see what
>> > items are added to basket but the customer does not follow through
>> > to checkout.
>> > What i've noticed is that every 5-7 minutes the IP 64.242.88.10 is
>> > adding products to basket.
>> > I've traced the IP back and it's coming from looksmart. I never
>> > knew that crawlers could add to basket I thought they just followed
>> > links.
>>
>> Following a link could mean adding something to a basket :-D.
>>
>>
> Well i thought that but the add to basket is javascript rather than a
> direct link , so it shouldnt really be able to do what it's doing ( I
> could be wrong)

AFAIK Google is able to pick up some links in JavaScript, e.g.:

onclick="window.open('http://example.com')" might be followed.

If you have constructions like that, you could try to make it "harder"
for bots, since they don't fully interpret JS (for now, and I doubt they
ever will). For example, call a function in onclick without an URL as
parameter.

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On , John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
>Adam Davies wrote:
>
>> In article <Xns9647B908A4AD8castleamber@130.133.1.4>,
>> john@castleamber.com says...
>>> Adam Davies wrote:
>>>
>>> > we have just had a module added to our site so that we can see what
>>> > items are added to basket but the customer does not follow through
>>> > to checkout.
>>> > What i've noticed is that every 5-7 minutes the IP 64.242.88.10 is
>>> > adding products to basket.
>>> > I've traced the IP back and it's coming from looksmart. I never
>>> > knew that crawlers could add to basket I thought they just followed
>>> > links.
>>>
>>> Following a link could mean adding something to a basket :-D.
>>>
>>>
>> Well i thought that but the add to basket is javascript rather than a
>> direct link , so it shouldnt really be able to do what it's doing ( I
>> could be wrong)
>
>AFAIK Google is able to pick up some links in JavaScript, e.g.:
>
>onclick="window.open('http://example.com')" might be followed.
>
>If you have constructions like that, you could try to make it "harder"
>for bots, since they don't fully interpret JS (for now, and I doubt they
>ever will). For example, call a function in onclick without an URL as
>parameter.


Would it be a good idea or a bad idea to use the following trick I read
about recently when linking to other sites that are not relevant to my
content? The person who told me about it has nothing but good to say,
anyone here have an impartial assement?


>in your .css define three classes, "title", "desc" and "addr" (without the
>quotes of course) with the font, color, and text styles that you want to
>use for links. then use the following snippet as a template for building
>links to any site that you do not want to be helping build PR or have the
>Search Engines see as links.
>
>
><DIV CLASS="title"><A HREF="javascript:location='ht'+'tp://www.domain.com/'"
>ONMOUSEOVER="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.domain.com/'; return true"
>ONFOCUS="window.status='ht'+'tp://www.domain.com/'; return true"
>ONMOUSEOUT="window.status=''; return true">link text</A></DIV>
><DIV CLASS="desc">link description</DIV>
><DIV CLASS="addr">http://www.domain.com/</DIV>
></DIV>


While I'm on the subject of rel=, I found a bit of javascript that I call
in the <head> section

<script type="text/javascript" src="external.js">
</script>
</head>

which loads this bit of js:

>function externalLinks() {
> if (!document.getElementsByTagName) return;
> var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName("a");
> for (var i=0; i<anchors.length; i++) {
> var anchor = anchors[i];
> if (anchor.getAttribute("href") &&
> anchor.getAttribute("rel") == "external")
> anchor.target = "_blank";
> }
>}
>window.onload = externalLinks;

When I use rel="external" the link opens in a new window as a 4.01 strict
way of doing what target="_blank" used to be used for.

Can I get away with something like rel="nofollow external" ?

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"John Bokma" <john@castleamber.com> wrote in message
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> Adam Davies wrote:
>
>> In article <Xns9647B908A4AD8castleamber@130.133.1.4>,
>> john@castleamber.com says...
>>> Adam Davies wrote:
>>>
>>> > we have just had a module added to our site so that we can see what
>>> > items are added to basket but the customer does not follow through
>>> > to checkout.
>>> > What i've noticed is that every 5-7 minutes the IP 64.242.88.10 is
>>> > adding products to basket.
>>> > I've traced the IP back and it's coming from looksmart. I never
>>> > knew that crawlers could add to basket I thought they just followed
>>> > links.
>>>
>>> Following a link could mean adding something to a basket :-D.
>>>
>>>
>> Well i thought that but the add to basket is javascript rather than a
>> direct link , so it shouldnt really be able to do what it's doing ( I
>> could be wrong)
>
> AFAIK Google is able to pick up some links in JavaScript, e.g.:
>
> onclick="window.open('http://example.com')" might be followed.
>
> If you have constructions like that, you could try to make it "harder"
> for bots, since they don't fully interpret JS (for now, and I doubt they
> ever will). For example, call a function in onclick without an URL as
> parameter.
>
> --
> John Perl SEO tools: http://johnbokma.com/perl/
> Experienced (web) developer: http://castleamber.com/
> Get a SEO report of your site for just 100 USD:
> http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/seo-expert-help.html
>

Why not just the basket link in your robots.txt file as one not to be
accessed

John Dingley wrote:

> Why not just the basket link in your robots.txt file as one not to be
> accessed

If the "basket" is in a subdirectory this works. AFAIK there is no way to
exclude just one file using robots.txt.

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